WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.930 --> 00:00:01.319 Morgan Briles: Now, 2 00:00:02.730 --> 00:00:10.200 Morgan Briles: You're welcome to have your camera on or not it's a personal choice. It's up to you. And so if you have to duck out or miss anything. 3 00:00:11.219 --> 00:00:18.150 Morgan Briles: Or you want to share this with a colleague we'll have the recording available, probably by the end of this week. 4 00:00:19.619 --> 00:00:37.980 Morgan Briles: or early next week and also after this, you'll be sent a short survey and I would really, really appreciate if you take a few minutes to fill it out. It's more questions about kind of your OER goals and what your interests are not just like a Net Promoter Score type survey 5 00:00:39.720 --> 00:00:40.140 Morgan Briles: Okay. 6 00:00:41.610 --> 00:00:44.820 Morgan Briles: All right, so any questions before I get started? 7 00:00:51.270 --> 00:00:52.920 Morgan Briles: Alright, that just means I'm really clear. 8 00:00:54.540 --> 00:00:58.350 Morgan Briles: Okay, so I'm going to pose a question for you all. 9 00:01:00.780 --> 00:01:09.150 Morgan Briles: So when you think of open educational resource, also called a OER, you see it abbreviated as that, what comes to mind? 10 00:01:10.710 --> 00:01:13.080 Morgan Briles: Like, what do you think of? What what are your first thoughts? 11 00:01:15.990 --> 00:01:19.350 Textbooks textbooks. 12 00:01:21.990 --> 00:01:22.560 Morgan Briles: Mm hmm. 13 00:01:27.030 --> 00:01:28.680 Morgan Briles: Like examples or 14 00:01:30.180 --> 00:01:30.780 Morgan Briles: Um, 15 00:01:32.190 --> 00:01:33.960 Morgan Briles: Other things that you might have used past? 16 00:01:34.380 --> 00:01:44.160 Darla O'Dwyer: Physiology textbook that's online. I don't know the difference between something that you can find online that books like a textbook. 17 00:01:45.570 --> 00:01:49.560 Darla O'Dwyer: And the difference between open educational resources, but 18 00:01:52.170 --> 00:01:55.440 Darla O'Dwyer: Definitely a textbook type resource. 19 00:01:57.390 --> 00:01:57.780 Morgan Briles: Okay. 20 00:02:00.660 --> 00:02:05.010 Morgan Briles: Yeah, so like an online is what we always think of as well, right? 21 00:02:15.150 --> 00:02:25.710 Morgan Briles: Yeah, okay. And so in the chat,We have materials that are free and can be modified from Tom Judson, and Anne Marie said online or free tutorials 22 00:02:34.920 --> 00:02:42.360 Morgan Briles: So um, actually the state of Texas, if you didn't know, actually has a definition of what an OER is. 23 00:02:45.090 --> 00:02:47.640 Morgan Briles: And that's here on this slide. 24 00:02:49.170 --> 00:03:00.930 Morgan Briles: So this is according to Texas Senate bill 810 which I believe was passed in 2017 or 2018 within the last few years and they define 25 00:03:01.530 --> 00:03:16.620 Morgan Briles: An open educational resource means a teaching, learning, or research resource that is in the public domain or has been released under an intellectual property license that permits the free use and repurposing of the resource by any person. 26 00:03:17.490 --> 00:03:30.390 Morgan Briles: The term may include course curricula, course materials, modules, textbooks, streaming videos, tests, software, and any other tools materials or techniques used to support access to knowledge. 27 00:03:32.040 --> 00:03:37.620 Morgan Briles: So that's actually a pretty broad definition. One thing that I think Tom got 28 00:03:38.760 --> 00:03:51.900 Morgan Briles: Had correct was that he said works that can be repurposed and edited and that's something that differentiates OER from like another kind of a free or online resource is um... 29 00:03:53.640 --> 00:03:57.780 Morgan Briles: Is that it's kind of created in order to be remixed and revised 30 00:04:00.570 --> 00:04:01.080 Morgan Briles: So, 31 00:04:02.430 --> 00:04:14.310 Morgan Briles: OERs kind of first got buzzy within the last decade or so. And a lot of people I think conceive of them as simply like a digital textbook or that if they want to use OERs. 32 00:04:15.030 --> 00:04:27.780 Morgan Briles: They need to create them themselves from scratch and but the the the platform and the, the OER movement and Open Access movement has really matured a lot over the last several years. 33 00:04:29.190 --> 00:04:32.820 Morgan Briles: So I would say it's not your mama's OER That's what I'm calling it. 34 00:04:34.050 --> 00:04:40.890 Morgan Briles: So there are universities and publishers that had specific units that are dedicated to making OER textbooks. 35 00:04:42.060 --> 00:04:50.700 Morgan Briles: Along with any kind of modules, lab assignments, things that can be inserted into LMS or courseware. So like bright space. 36 00:04:51.570 --> 00:05:06.780 Morgan Briles: There are a bunch of online libraries that are dedicated to curating and hosting OER. There are grant programs at a lot of universities and other institutions for adopting and creating OER. 37 00:05:07.830 --> 00:05:20.760 Morgan Briles: There are tools for faculty who want to publish OER. There are communities of people who are faculty and scholars who are using the same textbook collaborating online about assignments and quizzes and 38 00:05:22.200 --> 00:05:28.980 Morgan Briles: sharing their remixes of work that might be published from an OER publisher like OpenStax 39 00:05:29.580 --> 00:05:42.510 Morgan Briles: A lot of universities are involved. So SUNY, the State University of New York, has its own open textbook publishing unit. Rice University, You might have heard of Openstax. That's another exclusive 40 00:05:44.580 --> 00:05:55.620 Morgan Briles: Another publisher that deals exclusively in college level OER. Also the University of Minnesota, which houses the Open Textbook Network. 41 00:05:56.880 --> 00:06:00.720 Morgan Briles: Or also called the Open Education Network. They recently changed their name. 42 00:06:02.100 --> 00:06:13.740 Morgan Briles: So it's really kind of grown to be something that is less of you have to kind of start from scratch or reinvent the wheel. Now, there's a lot of things that make it much easier. So you don't have to do that. 43 00:06:15.600 --> 00:06:24.870 Morgan Briles: And then back to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board; related to the Senate bill that I mentioned just a few slides ago. 44 00:06:26.970 --> 00:06:36.330 Morgan Briles: Made the...passed..created this OER Commons portal that's just for Texas. It is called the OERTX repository, and I'll show you that a little bit later. 45 00:06:37.350 --> 00:06:40.530 Morgan Briles: It actually just launched on September 1st of this year. 46 00:06:42.210 --> 00:06:51.900 Morgan Briles: The so the state mandated this creation. It has also set aside funding for adapting and creating OER materials to be used in Texas universities. 47 00:06:52.980 --> 00:07:10.950 Morgan Briles: And a lot of the resources that I'm going to show you. I actually got through searching the OERTX platform. And it also includes a creation tool called Open Author that you can use to create your own resources and share within this portal. 48 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:25.170 Morgan Briles: So as I said, you don't really have to reinvent the wheel if you don't want to. There's lots of quality content out there that you can revise and remix 49 00:07:26.190 --> 00:07:28.770 Morgan Briles: to create a custom text for your course. 50 00:07:36.570 --> 00:07:52.440 Morgan Briles: And just as a bit of an aside to talk about the, the difference between... Oh, sorry... The difference between OER versus open access versus what I'm calling a 'no cost resource'. So this was something that was touched on a bit earlier with the definition is that 51 00:07:53.610 --> 00:08:03.210 Morgan Briles: An OER is specifically licensed to allow for to create derivative works and wide distribution or reproduction. 52 00:08:04.020 --> 00:08:20.100 Morgan Briles: Right. There are a lot of things that are open access that you can't necessarily create a derivative work from without permission from author. So they're still free to read and used by most anyone, however. 53 00:08:21.360 --> 00:08:25.020 Morgan Briles: There are some limits on the license, as opposed to what is an OER. 54 00:08:26.670 --> 00:08:34.860 Morgan Briles: So an example of this might be an open access journal article that is licensed under Creative Commons license, But, you know is licensed 55 00:08:35.670 --> 00:08:45.870 Morgan Briles: For attribution and no derivatives. So for, anything like that would need to be in contact with the author. We need to contact the author to make any sort of revisions to their content. 56 00:08:48.570 --> 00:09:03.000 Morgan Briles: Another and I'm also going to talk about no cost resources. So this is what these would be no costs, no additional cost to students, but they're not they're not necessarily free the library usually would pay for them. 57 00:09:04.230 --> 00:09:17.430 Morgan Briles: But, and they do remain under a standard US copyright license. So they can't be freely distributed. There's no derivatives without contacting the author or the publisher, whoever owns the copyright 58 00:09:18.750 --> 00:09:19.200 Morgan Briles: So, 59 00:09:20.460 --> 00:09:31.440 Morgan Briles: A great way to kind of add...keep textbook or materials costs down is to use some of the library resources that we have and that students already pay for with their tuition. 60 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:36.270 Morgan Briles: We have all kinds of databases, journal articles, ebooks, 61 00:09:37.410 --> 00:09:46.260 Morgan Briles: reference books, streaming videos, that we pay for. They don't cost anything extra students. And generally, if you're going to distribute them. 62 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:57.480 Morgan Briles: This would need to be restricted to your LMS course in Brightspace that's password protected, and access could only be temporary, no making copies, that kind of thing. 63 00:09:58.230 --> 00:10:11.040 Morgan Briles: If you have any questions about the most appropriate way to distribute content for your students that might be under copyright or you're unsure. That's something that the library or CTL can definitely help you out with. 64 00:10:12.060 --> 00:10:22.380 Morgan Briles: And so using a combination of all three: OER, open access resources, and resources that the library already provides you can kind of create a custom 65 00:10:23.130 --> 00:10:33.510 Morgan Briles: course pack, if you will, for your class that doesn't cost the students extra money. And at the library we want to know how we can help you achieve that. 66 00:10:37.050 --> 00:10:37.590 Morgan Briles: Okay. 67 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:43.380 Morgan Briles: So any questions about what I just talked about? 68 00:10:46.860 --> 00:10:52.410 Morgan Briles: Via chat or you can turn your mic on whichever sounds good. 69 00:10:58.530 --> 00:11:01.530 Melissa Clark: I had kind of a comment. I guess you could say. 70 00:11:03.330 --> 00:11:07.110 Melissa Clark: You make it sound very clear and you give definitions. 71 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.000 Morgan Briles: Thank you. 72 00:11:09.870 --> 00:11:24.660 Melissa Clark: A lot of times, though, it gets more complicated, though. I'm like, I've seen the bookstore, take an open educational resource textbook package it with like a study guide and like 73 00:11:25.770 --> 00:11:29.670 Melissa Clark: Like sample quizzes and stuff and then sell 74 00:11:29.670 --> 00:11:39.360 Melissa Clark: It for a low low cost like Barnes and Noble has a platform that does that. So again, it's like a hybrid 75 00:11:39.900 --> 00:11:40.650 Melissa Clark: So right. 76 00:11:42.090 --> 00:11:48.870 Melissa Clark: So yeah, it's like it, they're finding new ways to make it more complicated every day. So like 77 00:11:49.800 --> 00:11:51.720 Morgan Briles: Mm hmm. Yeah. 78 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:52.920 Melissa Clark: It's hard to tell. 79 00:11:53.310 --> 00:11:54.780 Melissa Clark: And they make it that way intentionally 80 00:11:56.130 --> 00:12:02.040 Morgan Briles: They make is very vagues. And The bookstore will sometimes make it sound like oh, if you want to use an OER then you have to 81 00:12:02.760 --> 00:12:14.880 Morgan Briles: Buy it's it's like kind of particularly for math and sciences. I'm sure you guys use a lot of the course, the homework software and stuf, along with it that comes with like the textbook you get from Pearson or McGraw Hill. 82 00:12:15.930 --> 00:12:22.410 Morgan Briles: And so it's like, well, 'you don't have to pay for the textbook, but every student has to buy this,and sometimes they charge that intuition and 83 00:12:23.760 --> 00:12:24.930 Morgan Briles: It's a little more into the weeds. 84 00:12:26.490 --> 00:12:27.210 Morgan Briles: But yeah, but 85 00:12:27.660 --> 00:12:43.650 Morgan Briles: I know that the book The Barnes and Noble bookstore Does this, Follet does this. Openstax has actually waded a bit into it as well, where they're like "It's like, you know, $15 per student to add the homework software on to the open access textbook. So it's like 86 00:12:43.710 --> 00:12:44.820 Morgan Briles: It's less money. 87 00:12:45.900 --> 00:12:52.290 Morgan Briles: Than buying a $300 textbook, but it's still, it's still putting.. keeping the publishers, kind of in charge of what's going on. 88 00:12:52.410 --> 00:12:54.780 Morgan Briles: that's a great comment. 89 00:12:55.260 --> 00:12:55.920 Morgan Briles: Um, 90 00:12:58.410 --> 00:13:01.770 Morgan Briles: Any, any other questions or comments or concerns. 91 00:13:01.770 --> 00:13:03.630 Melissa Clark: yeah 92 00:13:05.430 --> 00:13:21.420 Tom Judson: Yeah, I can sort of respond to Melissa's content or comment a little bit. Um, so it depends on the OER license. A lot. So, for example, Creative Commons. 93 00:13:22.140 --> 00:13:41.340 Tom Judson: License, you may have a license, which allows free distribution, people can take and modify it and you know Barnes noble could make a printout of your textbook that you've written and want to make freely available and sell up for $300 okay 94 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:50.100 Tom Judson: But the student should be able to go someplace online and download or read the 95 00:13:51.510 --> 00:13:57.300 Tom Judson: textbook online for free. So if Barnes and Noble keeps doing this, they're not going to stay in business very long. 96 00:13:58.590 --> 00:14:07.410 Melissa Clark: What they do is they make it mandatory like the it's tacked onto the courses as a fee fees students don't even have a say in it. 97 00:14:07.410 --> 00:14:09.870 Morgan Briles: Everyone has to pay it. Yes. 98 00:14:09.930 --> 00:14:13.740 Melissa Clark: To get access to the software or the study guides or whatever. 99 00:14:14.040 --> 00:14:18.300 Tom Judson: So there are open source homework systems too. 100 00:14:18.420 --> 00:14:25.230 Tom Judson: At least there's the one in mathematics, known as WebWork. Okay. And the math department actually has a Webwork 101 00:14:26.490 --> 00:14:39.990 Tom Judson: server set up. Okay. And the project that I am working on okay with some colleagues at other universities, we are actually working on incorporating homework. 102 00:14:41.490 --> 00:14:43.890 Tom Judson: Systems directly into the textbook. 103 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:48.180 Tom Judson: And we've made quite a bit of progress on that. 104 00:14:48.420 --> 00:14:53.100 Morgan Briles: That's really exciting. That's great. I'd love to talk with you more about that. 105 00:14:54.540 --> 00:14:56.970 Morgan Briles: At some point, if you have and see how we can 106 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.020 Morgan Briles: help or what books, you're using that's really exciting. 107 00:15:02.250 --> 00:15:14.940 Morgan Briles: Because I know that the the the homework and the online portion that can be a very big hurdle with people, adopting OERs. So I'm glad that there's an open source. I know of open math. I hadn't heard of that one in particular. 108 00:15:15.180 --> 00:15:21.690 Tom Judson: WebWork is probably the one that's been around the longest more so than Open Math. 109 00:15:22.800 --> 00:15:43.350 Tom Judson: It was sponsored by the National Science Foundation and the Mathematical Association of America has put it quite a bit of work into it, but since it's open source, okay, you can actually set up your own server. Okay, which we have done in the math department and run it at no cost. 110 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:51.480 Tom Judson: And even for science. Okay, and other disciplines. 111 00:15:52.350 --> 00:15:53.940 Tom Judson: I would look around. 112 00:15:54.180 --> 00:16:09.150 Tom Judson: okay because somebody someplace has probably done this and has done open source and rather than pay the bookstore or the publishers, you can probably get access they would be willing to share with you. 113 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:24.060 Morgan Briles: Yeah, that's one thing that I think is great about generally the professors who are adapting OA textbooks or OER like, and if they make a lesson plan or PowerPoints. They're usually 114 00:16:24.300 --> 00:16:34.350 Morgan Briles: Very happy to share that with other folks who are adopting the the textbook as well, it depends. But there's there's definitely a sense of community and collaboration around all of the 115 00:16:35.250 --> 00:16:46.980 Morgan Briles: A lot of the faculty who are using the software or these books and so like you really don't...There's, you don't have to write your own Chem 101 textbook. There are a lot of people 116 00:16:47.940 --> 00:16:54.570 Morgan Briles: Who were already kind of working in that space and you can talk back and forth and collaborate and share and so 117 00:16:55.620 --> 00:16:56.280 Morgan Briles: It's not 118 00:16:57.300 --> 00:17:04.290 Morgan Briles: I hope that after this presentation, you can feel a bit more confident and that it's less of a 119 00:17:05.400 --> 00:17:13.920 Morgan Briles: Struggle if this is a path that you want to go down. There are a lot of people out there to help you and support and grant money out there, quite frankly, 120 00:17:16.380 --> 00:17:19.410 Morgan Briles: Thank you. Thanks for for that, Tom. I appreciate that. 121 00:17:21.600 --> 00:17:29.940 Morgan Briles: Okay, so another question that we kind of got onto this a little bit that I have for you all, is that if you've been interested in using OER for your courses. 122 00:17:31.020 --> 00:17:41.460 Morgan Briles: Or other no cost resources, but you haven't been able to what has been your biggest obstacle or obstacles that you've kind of run across? 123 00:17:52.620 --> 00:18:01.860 Tom Judson: Well, I'll start if nobody else will. So one of the other thing. If I teaching my own course and it's just my students taking it. Okay. 124 00:18:02.520 --> 00:18:15.240 Tom Judson: The really the only obstacle is finding the appropriate textbook or the appropriate software or everything else. If I'm not teaching my own course and several other people are teaching the same course the biggest obstacle is my colleagues. 125 00:18:21.030 --> 00:18:23.700 Morgan Briles: Why, why do you what kind of resistance do you get from your colleagues? 126 00:18:24.060 --> 00:18:34.530 Tom Judson: They're reluctant to adopt open educational resources for a variety of reasons. 127 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:44.700 Tom Judson: And I think some of it is that they just haven't looked around. There may be and I need to talk more with people that 128 00:18:46.110 --> 00:18:54.720 Tom Judson: Open Educational Resources are not as good as commercially published resources and I will argue that 129 00:18:57.630 --> 00:19:04.740 Tom Judson: That actually they might be better. Okay. And I can give you several reasons why but 130 00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:10.830 Tom Judson: So those. That's the biggest obstacle where I'm coming from. 131 00:19:12.720 --> 00:19:18.900 Tom Judson: And so finding mathematics books is actually fairly easy. 132 00:19:20.100 --> 00:19:33.420 Tom Judson: Because the American Institute of mathematics has a nice editorial board for open access open source textbooks for the college level finding them in other disciplines. I don't know. 133 00:19:35.730 --> 00:19:38.430 Morgan Briles: Okay, thank you. That's good to know. 134 00:19:39.450 --> 00:19:39.870 Um, 135 00:19:42.390 --> 00:19:45.450 Morgan Briles: Anyone else or if you have been able to adopt it, and it's 136 00:19:46.110 --> 00:19:51.390 Morgan Briles: You know what has helped or been really helps you kind of get that going. 137 00:19:53.580 --> 00:19:54.990 Morgan Briles: If you've been able to do that. 138 00:19:58.320 --> 00:19:59.760 Morgan Briles: In your department or 139 00:20:01.290 --> 00:20:05.040 Morgan Briles: You know, as a graduate student, you know all of your experience. 140 00:20:11.310 --> 00:20:13.380 Michele Harris: I know a lot of faculty that use 141 00:20:14.940 --> 00:20:19.860 Michele Harris: current journal articles, and I do in my classes, and then pick specific 142 00:20:22.530 --> 00:20:33.930 Michele Harris: websites or places that are good, but often they still have a textbook adopted of some kind of they're following along, and they a supplement more with the OERs, then they have is their main textbook. 143 00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:40.050 Morgan Briles: Okay, so they kind of use that in addition to kind of supplement 144 00:20:41.340 --> 00:20:43.050 Morgan Briles: a publisher textbook, they would use 145 00:20:43.110 --> 00:20:44.730 Morgan Briles: The current articles to kind of supplement 146 00:20:44.730 --> 00:20:46.200 Michele Harris: I'm pretty familiar with. Yeah. 147 00:20:46.410 --> 00:20:46.680 Okay. 148 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:48.750 Morgan Briles: Okay. 149 00:20:57.660 --> 00:20:58.200 Okay. 150 00:21:00.690 --> 00:21:02.220 Morgan Briles: Anyone else? 151 00:21:08.340 --> 00:21:09.510 Morgan Briles: We're all friends here. 152 00:21:13.950 --> 00:21:14.280 Morgan Briles: Okay. 153 00:21:14.820 --> 00:21:17.220 Tom Judson: So I put this in chat, but a very good argument for 154 00:21:19.350 --> 00:21:28.410 Tom Judson: Open Source textbooks that are freely available, especially if you can access them online is that every student has a textbook on the first day of class. 155 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:44.010 Tom Judson: If students are paying for textbooks, a certain percentage are not going to have textbooks on the first day of class or maybe even after the first week or two of class, and some of them will never buy the textbook at all. 156 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:45.030 Morgan Briles: Right. 157 00:21:49.170 --> 00:21:54.600 Morgan Briles: Ya know, that definitely like students learn a lot better when they have the resource. 158 00:21:55.980 --> 00:21:56.310 Morgan Briles: They're not 159 00:21:57.600 --> 00:22:08.910 Morgan Briles: waiting, you know and like we do, you know, some professors do put just copies on reserve here at the library, but with COVID we're kind with limited how often you can 160 00:22:09.780 --> 00:22:11.340 Morgan Briles: Check those out and 161 00:22:12.090 --> 00:22:25.080 Morgan Briles: Time periods and not every, you know and there's not usually enough for everyone to have one who needs a textbook that you know has to wait for the shipment to come in, or just simply can't afford to plunk down the money for it that semester. 162 00:22:25.890 --> 00:22:40.440 Morgan Briles: So that's a really good argument. And I think enhances kind of the learning experience. And that's something that I think at SFA that's the goal that we all have in common is to make for a better experience for our students. So 163 00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:43.290 Darla O'Dwyer: Morgan. I thought of a barrier for us. 164 00:22:43.890 --> 00:22:46.830 Morgan Briles: Sure that just can you remind me what department you're in? 165 00:22:46.860 --> 00:22:49.290 Darla O'Dwyer: I'm in food nutrition and dietetic 166 00:22:50.550 --> 00:22:57.480 Darla O'Dwyer: And our students once they complete the graduate portion of the program to sit through the registered dietitian exam. 167 00:22:58.170 --> 00:23:19.080 Darla O'Dwyer: It's super important that they have their textbooks, all of them, to study for this national exam. So if we used Open Educational Resources, would they still be available by the time they took advanced nutrition and then two years later to the exam. It's nice for them. 168 00:23:19.320 --> 00:23:26.400 Darla O'Dwyer: to have a textbook their hand and then they always can resort back to it. So that's one of our barriers. 169 00:23:26.430 --> 00:23:33.330 Morgan Briles: Okay, so it's so it's important that will essentially need the textbook when they take the national exam. 170 00:23:33.570 --> 00:23:37.500 Morgan Briles: To study later to study for and it's it's helpful if they have that 171 00:23:37.860 --> 00:23:40.980 Morgan Briles: Okay, I see what you're saying. Okay. That's a good point. 172 00:23:46.590 --> 00:23:57.330 Morgan Briles: So that's why would be like my rental or something wouldn't necessarily work the best in that scenario or something like that. Okay. No, that's great. Thank you so much. 173 00:23:59.970 --> 00:24:00.420 Morgan Briles: I think. 174 00:24:03.090 --> 00:24:03.960 Morgan Briles: One thing that 175 00:24:05.940 --> 00:24:14.640 Morgan Briles: So I've made a LibGuide that you guys are welcome to peruse after this section, but it one thing, it talks about is the Five R of OER. 176 00:24:17.010 --> 00:24:30.540 Morgan Briles: And one of them is retain so that students should have the right to keep their book or text or whatever. And it shouldn't be something that disappears offline. 177 00:24:31.290 --> 00:24:40.560 Morgan Briles: Or that they won't be able to access at a later date, and there were Four Rs, And that's the fifth one and that's the most recent one. 178 00:24:41.070 --> 00:24:47.340 Morgan Briles: That's kind of been added to that framework and I that does kind of play into that, you know, this 179 00:24:48.210 --> 00:25:04.800 Morgan Briles: Student You should be able to retain like if you bought a book you would be able to keep the book, in theory, and so you should be able to hold on to it the same way for an a national exam, or for your own leisure, or further studies. So that is something that 180 00:25:07.230 --> 00:25:10.470 Morgan Briles: People are in this. Oh, we are community are trying to address. 181 00:25:12.870 --> 00:25:13.770 Melissa Clark: I have a quick question Morgan, sorry. 182 00:25:15.060 --> 00:25:24.840 Melissa Clark: So OERs as they stand Now, are they generally like DRM free so that once you download them You can keep them forever. 183 00:25:25.620 --> 00:25:32.400 Morgan Briles: Generally, I think real OER yes. There are a lot of publishers trying 184 00:25:33.540 --> 00:25:40.350 Morgan Briles: To be like, oh, it's free, but it's only online. I think sometimes it's called Bronze Open Access, where you can read 185 00:25:40.950 --> 00:25:42.360 Morgan Briles: But you can't download. 186 00:25:45.750 --> 00:26:00.030 Morgan Briles: So, but, yes, I would ssy in the true spirit of OER would be retained. So, you know, Openstax, anything like that sometimes the online versions of texts are a bit more interactive and they could be updated faster, right. 187 00:26:01.020 --> 00:26:05.190 Morgan Briles: But usually, the new version is able to download. Once that's, you know, 188 00:26:06.690 --> 00:26:10.260 Morgan Briles: Updated. But yeah, the kind of big publisher. 189 00:26:12.060 --> 00:26:22.800 Morgan Briles: I don't want to say cop out, but where they're like, oh yeah, you can free. You can read it online for free, but you can't download it and only for a certain amount of time. 190 00:26:23.070 --> 00:26:23.640 Morgan Briles: It's free. 191 00:26:23.730 --> 00:26:24.480 Morgan Briles: Yeah, so 192 00:26:25.530 --> 00:26:26.490 Morgan Briles: Great question Melissa. 193 00:26:29.910 --> 00:26:30.120 Morgan Briles: Okay. 194 00:26:32.010 --> 00:26:36.900 Morgan Briles: All right. Um, any other obstacles or barriers. You guys have come across 195 00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:39.960 Morgan Briles: Either you or some colleagues? 196 00:26:45.330 --> 00:26:54.300 Morgan Briles: Okay, so now I will stop sharing for just a moment and show you. I'm going to go to D2L 197 00:26:55.890 --> 00:26:59.340 Morgan Briles: And kind of show you the the modules that I put together. 198 00:27:01.020 --> 00:27:03.990 Morgan Briles: So you can see 199 00:27:05.010 --> 00:27:05.280 Morgan Briles: them. 200 00:27:10.020 --> 00:27:10.260 Morgan Briles: Okay. 201 00:27:12.810 --> 00:27:16.530 Morgan Briles: All right, and so I did some math and 202 00:27:17.820 --> 00:27:18.570 Morgan Briles: chemistry. 203 00:27:20.820 --> 00:27:39.780 Morgan Briles: So, so what I have done so right now I'm in D2L And so I focused on kind that Jonathan calls these 'plug and play' because you can kind of grab them from OERTX or Openstax and easily put them into Brightspace. and then they're right there. So I actually found all of these 204 00:27:41.370 --> 00:27:42.780 Morgan Briles: resources 205 00:27:45.510 --> 00:28:02.400 Morgan Briles: In this OERTX repository. This is the brand new repository. If you've ever looked at OER Commons This is built on the same like the same vendor operates it and so you can search for resources via subject also 206 00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:07.170 Morgan Briles: You can also author your own resources, up here. 207 00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:23.670 Morgan Briles: I've seen more robust editors for digital textbooks in my time but it works. And you can also. So, there's also these sort of hubs, that are Texas specific. So there's like some for the Alamo Colleges, UT Austin, UT Arlington. 208 00:28:25.770 --> 00:28:38.430 Morgan Briles: So it's pretty easy to search. You can search by subject area, material type. So if you're looking for some lab stuff, lecture notes. So it's more than just a full textbook. You can see lesson plans, modules, 209 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.780 Morgan Briles: case studies, assessments. 210 00:28:44.040 --> 00:28:52.380 Morgan Briles: That kind of thing as well. And this is not the only only OER library out there. This is just this the very special Texas one 211 00:28:54.480 --> 00:28:59.520 Morgan Briles: That is new and will probably have more stuff added to it as more Texas 212 00:29:00.840 --> 00:29:02.100 Morgan Briles: scholars add to it. 213 00:29:03.810 --> 00:29:14.610 Morgan Briles: So this is a intro to analytical chemistry. And it's this open access book by David Harvey, who's from DePauw University. 214 00:29:15.540 --> 00:29:23.610 Morgan Briles: I got this from a platform called LibreTexts and it was very easy for me to import this into Brightspace. 215 00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:39.180 Morgan Briles: Here's what the online version of it looks like by clicking downloads, I could just click import into LMS and it gave me a zip file of each chapter. It was easy to pick and choose whatever I wanted to import it was ready in a couple minutes. 216 00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:45.360 Morgan Briles: We've got all our this... I would see the Libretexts platform is very interactive. 217 00:29:46.920 --> 00:30:02.160 Morgan Briles: It's, I think it looks best when one reads it online or imports it from Brightspace, but it can also be read as a PDF, it's updated regularly. It has all the images and figures that you would expect from a science textbook. 218 00:30:04.590 --> 00:30:11.190 Morgan Briles: So I imported the first chapter here. So if I just click. "What is analytical chemistry?" 219 00:30:14.070 --> 00:30:19.170 Morgan Briles: It'll kind of show me what the it'll sort of pull in the the website. 220 00:30:20.940 --> 00:30:22.710 Morgan Briles: Or the web version of the text. 221 00:30:24.570 --> 00:30:31.710 Morgan Briles: It's, yeah. Okay. And it's going to load. So, it has, you know, when it was last updated. So this was last updated in August and has our licensing so 222 00:30:32.370 --> 00:30:43.470 Morgan Briles: Creative Commons with attribution noncommercial share like so if you do a remix of this text, you would also need to share it with a similar license. 223 00:30:46.530 --> 00:30:53.790 Morgan Briles: So it's got the full thing you've got all our diagrams. It's easy to link back to where the figures would be 224 00:30:54.930 --> 00:31:01.590 Morgan Briles: Or link within the text. So that's very helpful. This also works well for screen readers and 225 00:31:03.090 --> 00:31:08.340 Morgan Briles: It has so someone can easily skip to other portions of this chapter. 226 00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:19.320 Morgan Briles: So I personally, I like this platform a lot. It's hosted by UC Davis, along with some funding from the National Science Foundation, and they have 227 00:31:20.400 --> 00:31:25.950 Morgan Briles: Almost every kind of, any subject, I think, is in this Libretexts format, um, 228 00:31:26.970 --> 00:31:28.800 Morgan Briles: But I picked chemistry. 229 00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:38.400 Morgan Briles: Yeah, so you can someone could download a PDF version of a page or a section very easily. 230 00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:47.040 Morgan Briles: And this could be also... This the Libretexts platform has a very easy way to remix 231 00:31:49.620 --> 00:32:06.270 Morgan Briles: parts from, you know, this textbook. So for analytical chemistry but from any other platform that or any other book that's on this platform. It's really easy to take it and pick and choose what you want. Create a new work and publish it on here. 232 00:32:12.210 --> 00:32:17.280 Morgan Briles: Okay, any questions about this platform? Or has anyone worked with this platform before? 233 00:32:23.430 --> 00:32:26.700 Tom Judson: So Morgan I've talked to a little bit 234 00:32:28.890 --> 00:32:33.270 Tom Judson: with the Libretexts people, and I think what they're doing is good. 235 00:32:35.610 --> 00:32:39.270 Tom Judson: I'm not sure how versatile, it is if you want to repackage it 236 00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:42.270 Tom Judson: You're stuck with their platform. 237 00:32:44.010 --> 00:32:56.280 Tom Judson: And so if you wanted to download say, the source code reformat it and publish a hardbound copy print on demand on Amazon or something that might be very difficult. 238 00:32:56.970 --> 00:32:57.390 Right. 239 00:32:59.310 --> 00:33:05.250 Morgan Briles: Yeah, it seems like it's a very they ment they mean it to be very web. Web based in interactive 240 00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:06.420 Morgan Briles: Right, yeah. 241 00:33:07.860 --> 00:33:14.580 Morgan Briles: But this this particular book is available I think BC Open Campus, a couple this this 242 00:33:15.300 --> 00:33:25.380 Morgan Briles: This author has put it in a couple different websites. So it's in the Libretexts. And it's also in BC open campus and OTN. And, um, but this is kind of a more unique 243 00:33:26.040 --> 00:33:42.090 Morgan Briles: Thing. So that's cool. I'm glad. This was when I working on this was the first time I'd heard of this platform. And I was very impressed by its. But you're right, it's probably not as kind of downloadable and portable as some of some of like Openstax may be 244 00:33:44.040 --> 00:33:51.540 Morgan Briles: But really easy to import, you know, you can check it out. And it's all within Brightspace. So your students don't have to leave the platform. 245 00:33:56.370 --> 00:33:57.150 Morgan Briles: Thank you, Tom. 246 00:34:00.630 --> 00:34:04.500 Morgan Briles: And another example. I picked out to kind of show a different 247 00:34:04.620 --> 00:34:15.840 Morgan Briles: way might look this is the intro to chemistry from Openstax, which is based out of Rice University and so OpenStax has a lot has been 248 00:34:16.740 --> 00:34:26.460 Morgan Briles: slowly adding I think Now when books are published, they start with this now, but they're adding more ancillary materials that go with 249 00:34:27.450 --> 00:34:47.280 Morgan Briles: their textbooks. So PowerPoints, quizzes tests, tests banks, and these are all kind of protected behind, you have to be a verified instructor to have access to these things. So the, the test bank isn't already online a bunch of places like it is with some textbooks. 250 00:34:48.480 --> 00:35:00.210 Morgan Briles: So this is easy to download as a PDF. You can also read it online, they are in ePubs, and OpenStax also does print on demand for just like the cost of the 251 00:35:01.560 --> 00:35:11.580 Morgan Briles: printing essentially so they're very low cost. So if your students would say prefer printed copy of a textbook. It's very, very inexpensive compared to 252 00:35:13.080 --> 00:35:24.840 Morgan Briles: a more traditional chemistry textbook. So this is...I just downloaded the PDF by clipped it out, put it in here. We've got it looks very similar to, you know, 253 00:35:26.430 --> 00:35:34.230 Morgan Briles: what we think of as the big publisher textbook with nice figures we have, it's always linked to where it's free. 254 00:35:35.340 --> 00:35:38.040 Morgan Briles: The tab that the sections all linked together. 255 00:35:39.330 --> 00:35:42.510 Morgan Briles: And so Openstax is one of the definitely 256 00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:54.330 Morgan Briles: I would say they do really high quality textbooks and try to mimic the publisher textbook experience. 257 00:35:57.330 --> 00:35:58.830 Morgan Briles: You know, with the look and feel. 258 00:35:59.970 --> 00:36:04.260 Morgan Briles: So that's, that's a good option. And they're coming out with new courses, all the time. 259 00:36:05.910 --> 00:36:15.600 Morgan Briles: They have a lot of math and science. I would say there he their history or humanities is a bit more limited than some other OER publishers would be 260 00:36:16.620 --> 00:36:21.540 Morgan Briles: But Openstax is always a good choice. They're also a 261 00:36:22.770 --> 00:36:34.650 Morgan Briles: publisher that has a lot of faculty, you know, using their OER textbooks and they have a sort of a collaboration space on their website where folks share 262 00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:38.520 Morgan Briles: remixes and things that they've been working on. 263 00:36:40.260 --> 00:36:42.360 Morgan Briles: in regards to the content. 264 00:36:43.530 --> 00:36:45.480 Morgan Briles: So this is just one chapter. 265 00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:57.990 Morgan Briles: And they do have a chemistry and chemistry atoms first so you know they've got both covered it also includes PowerPoint slides. So these are exactly what 266 00:36:59.490 --> 00:37:17.820 Morgan Briles: is under the instructor resources for Openstax. You can download this as a PowerPoint and make any edits that you want and you're free to do that and add it to and it goes along and sequence with the sections of the textbook, so 267 00:37:19.110 --> 00:37:27.510 Morgan Briles: that's that's helpful. Again, you don't have to start from scratch. You've got your lecture slides or another resource for your students. 268 00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:31.530 Morgan Briles: And it also has a test bank as well. 269 00:37:32.910 --> 00:37:40.410 Morgan Briles: And I made a brief quiz in Brightspace using questions that were from the instructor materials so 270 00:37:41.670 --> 00:37:47.580 Morgan Briles: There's that as well. Any questions about OpenStax, Libretexts 271 00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.120 Morgan Briles: Or how...how I did this? 272 00:38:01.410 --> 00:38:04.560 Michele Harris: How did you get access to the instructor and what sort of 273 00:38:06.240 --> 00:38:09.930 Michele Harris: Checking, do they checked so that it's just not students downloading the 274 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:10.170 Right. 275 00:38:11.220 --> 00:38:32.070 Morgan Briles: You have to, so I you have to verify that you are employed by a university. So actually, it took me a while to be verified as an instructor, even though I'm a librarian. So I had to like contest, they denied me twice, and I had to be like, no, listen, I need this. 276 00:38:33.870 --> 00:38:40.440 Morgan Briles: So they have, they have a verification system and they like double check and make sure you're legit. 277 00:38:43.500 --> 00:38:48.630 Morgan Briles: So I yeah so I technically. I don't teach any classes. So, you know, 278 00:38:49.860 --> 00:38:50.430 Morgan Briles: That's 279 00:38:51.060 --> 00:38:57.270 Morgan Briles: That. But yeah, so this is just this is the same textbook and it's online, um, 280 00:38:58.230 --> 00:39:11.520 Morgan Briles: Yeah, so this doesn't currently have a Brightspace specific cartridge. But it was really easy for me to put that right in Brightspace. They do have Canvas and Blackboard and it's possible bright space could be in the future. 281 00:39:13.770 --> 00:39:25.020 Morgan Briles: And so there's the PowerPoints solutions syllabus language, a guide towards the first edition to the second edition, test items. 282 00:39:26.520 --> 00:39:36.780 Morgan Briles: And then Community resources. So they have like a little group on OER Commons, where they all kind of talk about what they're doing. 283 00:39:38.610 --> 00:39:39.240 Morgan Briles: So, 284 00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:52.590 Morgan Briles: Yes, so you have to, you have to sign up and be verified as an instructor. But as far as I know they're not generally floating around like some other 285 00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:55.170 Morgan Briles: testbanks 286 00:39:56.190 --> 00:39:58.020 Morgan Briles: won't name names of those books, but 287 00:40:00.060 --> 00:40:01.680 Morgan Briles: Yeah, so does that answer your question, Michelle. 288 00:40:04.530 --> 00:40:05.010 Michele Harris: Yes. 289 00:40:05.430 --> 00:40:06.060 Morgan Briles: Okay, great. 290 00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:12.360 Michele Harris: Because you can Google almost any test bank I've ever come across in 25 years now and find the answer online now. 291 00:40:13.770 --> 00:40:17.160 Morgan Briles: Yeah, they're trying their best. 292 00:40:18.450 --> 00:40:19.920 Morgan Briles: To keep them under 293 00:40:21.780 --> 00:40:22.530 Morgan Briles: under wraps. 294 00:40:25.050 --> 00:40:25.500 Morgan Briles: Right. 295 00:40:27.270 --> 00:40:29.820 Morgan Briles: Any other questions about 296 00:40:31.080 --> 00:40:31.800 Morgan Briles: Chemistry. 297 00:40:34.950 --> 00:40:36.300 Morgan Briles: Either of these platforms. 298 00:40:43.650 --> 00:40:46.320 Morgan Briles: Okay, cool. I'm just really clear. 299 00:40:47.700 --> 00:40:48.330 Morgan Briles: And that's great. 300 00:40:49.380 --> 00:40:53.130 Morgan Briles: So another demo I had was to talk a bit about math. 301 00:40:55.200 --> 00:41:03.900 Morgan Briles: So, Tom, probably, probably already knows all this, but there are a few different math sites 302 00:41:05.340 --> 00:41:12.030 Morgan Briles: Open Textbook sites specifically for math. And so I used 303 00:41:13.410 --> 00:41:13.920 Morgan Briles: There we go. 304 00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:20.850 Morgan Briles: So I use the second edition So this is from opentextbookstore.com and this is 305 00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:40.830 Morgan Briles: It's linked with myopenmath, which is an open source math homework platform. This is the second edition. It's this book is written by two professors, I think, from Washington State their community college system. 306 00:41:41.940 --> 00:42:01.470 Morgan Briles: Um, so you can actually order the full book to be printed on demand from Amazon. There's also you can do a PDF or a .Doc, the doc, I think is helpful, because then you can, It's really easy for you to make any edits that you would want to and still keep a large chunk 307 00:42:02.490 --> 00:42:03.660 Morgan Briles: Of the textbook. 308 00:42:08.370 --> 00:42:10.080 Morgan Briles: So I 309 00:42:12.090 --> 00:42:21.690 Morgan Briles: downloaded the section of the textbook. And so for background I added it to the module. 310 00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:38.460 Morgan Briles: And I included another, a different no cost resource for it. So I added the Khan Academy video explaining how the unit circle works. So, this can be like a good supplement to your open access content. 311 00:42:39.510 --> 00:42:40.740 Morgan Briles: Or your OER content. 312 00:42:42.990 --> 00:42:52.230 Morgan Briles: Or any other kind of video that the library subscribes to you can embed in bright space. So this is just a PDF of 313 00:42:53.250 --> 00:42:54.930 Morgan Briles: A section, 5.3 314 00:42:56.310 --> 00:42:58.170 Morgan Briles: And has all the nice figures. 315 00:42:59.190 --> 00:43:04.020 Morgan Briles: Along with exercises and examples. 316 00:43:06.090 --> 00:43:11.400 Morgan Briles: Good thing is that the symbols son't look really weird when you download them. So that's always good. 317 00:43:14.010 --> 00:43:23.700 Morgan Briles: The Khan Academy, If you're not familiar with it. It's a bunch of free videos that this guy on YouTube started making and then they caught on. 318 00:43:24.990 --> 00:43:43.620 Morgan Briles: But there's all kinds of exercises and practices for subjects from history, math, science, and they do you know K-12 stuff, but also higher level things and it's like a fun game, you can, you know, you can have an account and you get points. And so that's another kind of fun, 319 00:43:44.700 --> 00:43:48.090 Morgan Briles: free resource, your students can use for practice. 320 00:43:49.140 --> 00:43:51.510 Morgan Briles: So shout out to Khan Academy! 321 00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:13.020 Morgan Briles: Yes. And then I added a page with just the exercises, there could be a Dropbox for an assignment. This is a couple pages from the Lippman Rasmussen book, The pre calculus book that I mentioned. 322 00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:18.750 Morgan Briles: It also does come with the solutions on the instructor side as well. 323 00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:31.290 Morgan Briles: And there's also a link to the MyOpen Math. So MyOpenMath is already set up with 324 00:44:32.610 --> 00:44:41.760 Morgan Briles: these textbooks. So this is for the 5.3 section about the unit circle. It has important topics it has the link to the online section. 325 00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:52.620 Morgan Briles: It has videos and then the homework software that is here as well. So 326 00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:56.310 Morgan Briles: that's a tool that you can use. 327 00:44:57.390 --> 00:45:03.000 Morgan Briles: Instead of having your students pay for, you know, Pearson or Math Connect, or what have you. 328 00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:04.770 Morgan Briles: Okay. 329 00:45:07.710 --> 00:45:14.250 Morgan Briles: Alright, so we're, we've got about 12 minutes left in this session. 330 00:45:16.500 --> 00:45:23.880 Morgan Briles: So those were the two modules that I wanted to show you all, any questions you have about that? 331 00:45:25.500 --> 00:45:27.840 Morgan Briles: Or how I how I got those or 332 00:45:30.690 --> 00:45:31.800 Morgan Briles: Comments? 333 00:45:40.740 --> 00:45:44.250 Morgan Briles: Alright, sounds like I'm just very clear again, which is great. 334 00:45:46.170 --> 00:45:50.850 Morgan Briles: Um, okay. And I'll go back to my PowerPoint. 335 00:45:52.680 --> 00:45:53.040 Morgan Briles: Okay. 336 00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.610 Morgan Briles: So if you're interested, and you want to learn more about this. 337 00:46:00.870 --> 00:46:06.090 Morgan Briles: I do have a resource for you all is the OER LibGuides which I'll open. 338 00:46:22.710 --> 00:46:25.770 Morgan Briles: Okay, my screen share turned off for a second. My apologies. 339 00:46:43.710 --> 00:46:44.400 Morgan Briles: I've almost got it. 340 00:46:50.190 --> 00:46:59.550 Morgan Briles: Great. Yes. So this is a LibGuide that I made that a talks about the 5Rs and a bunch of different places where you can find 341 00:47:00.720 --> 00:47:04.050 Morgan Briles: search and find resources and I will also be archiving. 342 00:47:05.910 --> 00:47:23.250 Morgan Briles: these the recordings of this presentation, I'll be putting them on here so you or your colleagues can go back and look at them. You're also welcome to contact me via email with any questions like that about OER. 343 00:47:26.610 --> 00:47:39.390 Morgan Briles: I'm happy to help. And as it says you get what you pay for. Not true in the case of OER, because there's a lot of good stuff that's out there that your students don't have to pay $300 for so 344 00:47:53.220 --> 00:47:53.520 Morgan Briles: Okay. 345 00:47:55.050 --> 00:47:55.230 Goodness 346 00:47:56.580 --> 00:48:02.700 Morgan Briles: Okay, so if you need help finding. If you're interested in this and you don't know where to start. 347 00:48:03.510 --> 00:48:21.330 Morgan Briles: About finding resources that are low cost or, oh, er, like that's what librarians are here for. We're here to help you. So, let us know what you're looking for, we'll do, we'll see what we can do and if you are interested in writing or publishing your own OER 348 00:48:23.070 --> 00:48:24.450 Morgan Briles: That's awesome. Let us know. 349 00:48:26.310 --> 00:48:32.250 Morgan Briles: We'd be happy, Jonathan, or I would be happy to talk to you about options that are available as far as platforms. 350 00:48:33.570 --> 00:48:42.570 Morgan Briles: and things like that. We do have our institutional repository, Scholarworks, if you are all familiar with that. That's a great venue to share your open access work. 351 00:48:43.980 --> 00:49:02.490 Morgan Briles: But there's also programs that you can use for publishing a textbook or different vendors and stuff so we can talk about that. And if you've already if you're already using OER or you've made something that you want to share with the wider audience like 352 00:49:03.930 --> 00:49:05.520 Morgan Briles: Let us know you know 353 00:49:07.770 --> 00:49:08.490 Morgan Briles: Oh, great. 354 00:49:12.780 --> 00:49:15.600 Morgan Briles: Oh, oops, let us know. Um, 355 00:49:16.950 --> 00:49:33.540 Morgan Briles: We're here to help. And so like I said part of us was to talk to you to kind of demonstrate that you don't have to reinvent the wheel. if you want to adopt OER, but also for myself to find out what what you guys need from the library and how we can help. 356 00:49:35.610 --> 00:49:40.680 Morgan Briles: So please reach out to me or Jonathan. Hopefully he's feeling better soon. 357 00:49:42.660 --> 00:49:46.110 Morgan Briles: And yeah. Any questions before we wrap up a little bit early. 358 00:49:48.450 --> 00:49:58.320 Tom Judson: Um, yeah. So Morgan, if you give me a minute I should talk to people about the pretext project because if anyone is interested in writing 359 00:49:59.130 --> 00:50:09.540 Tom Judson: their own materials they should definitely consider that. This is an authoring language that we've worked on with grants from the National Science Foundation. 360 00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:20.130 Tom Judson: And I've written well one now two, and I'm working on a third book in PreTex. And the idea behind PreTex. It's a little bit of a learning curve. 361 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:38.880 Tom Judson: There's about 50 projects out there. Most of them are math, but there is a music theory book. Okay. And there is no reason why there shouldn't be science books, but basically you maintain one source code. Okay, you run it through a processor and from that processor 362 00:50:40.500 --> 00:50:59.160 Tom Judson: You know you can in a minute or two. You can produce an HTML version of your book, a PDF version of your book, epub version of your book. Okay, and now we finally got it. And we've been working on this for the last six, eight months. You can even produce a braille version of the book. 363 00:50:59.220 --> 00:51:00.570 Morgan Briles: Oh, wow. 364 00:51:01.050 --> 00:51:10.050 Tom Judson: So, and so this is pretty exciting development and you know it works. 365 00:51:11.250 --> 00:51:28.380 Tom Judson: And plugging open source. I've got an abstract algebra textbook, which is a senior level textbook and it was first published as a commercial textbook, but about seven or eight years ago I made it open source. And if you google Abstract Algebra textbook, it will come up on the first page. 366 00:51:28.980 --> 00:51:29.760 Morgan Briles: Oh, that's awesome. Congratulations 367 00:51:29.850 --> 00:51:32.730 Tom Judson: It's got hundreds of adoptions. 368 00:51:33.900 --> 00:51:38.460 Tom Judson: So, and it was even translated into Spanish 369 00:51:40.170 --> 00:51:45.270 Tom Judson: And I didn't know about this until after it had been translated, but that's perfectly fine thing to do. 370 00:51:45.990 --> 00:51:46.350 Morgan Briles: Mm hmm. 371 00:51:47.580 --> 00:51:48.270 Morgan Briles: Yeah, that's why. 372 00:51:48.990 --> 00:51:59.610 Morgan Briles: That's why it's without license, you know, you can make derivatives that you want. That's really exciting. I didn't know that. Congratulations! Do you know if it's on.. If that version is on ScholarWorks or not? 373 00:52:00.510 --> 00:52:03.000 Tom Judson: I do not know, but you can see. 374 00:52:03.540 --> 00:52:08.700 Morgan Briles: All right, because that would be a great addition to ScholarWorks if you're open to 375 00:52:08.970 --> 00:52:10.200 Morgan Briles: Having it on there. 376 00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:11.040 Tom Judson: Open source. 377 00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:12.690 Morgan Briles: Yeah, I mean, good. 378 00:52:13.380 --> 00:52:15.390 Morgan Briles: Maybe you don't like ScholarWorks. I don't know. 379 00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:16.650 Tom Judson: I don't care. 380 00:52:17.220 --> 00:52:18.540 Morgan Briles: Okay. All right. 381 00:52:19.410 --> 00:52:30.720 Darla O'Dwyer: So, Tom, I have a question for you. I teach two graduate courses and there's no textbook for these courses. So I've written the whole content myself. 382 00:52:31.740 --> 00:52:36.690 Darla O'Dwyer: With that be, could I take this content and do something like what you're doing with it. 383 00:52:36.870 --> 00:52:38.100 Tom Judson: What is it written in 384 00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:41.640 Darla O'Dwyer: It's in D2L 385 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:44.250 Tom Judson: No, did you write it Microsoft Word? 386 00:52:45.150 --> 00:52:49.170 Darla O'Dwyer: It's all written straight into D2L, but once it can be copied. 387 00:52:49.500 --> 00:53:07.170 Tom Judson: So probably you can copy it and probably get someone to convert it. Okay, so if you can get the source code and the source code is probably just HTML. Okay. If it's in D2L and it probably can be converted Darla 388 00:53:08.340 --> 00:53:08.850 Darla O'Dwyer: But what 389 00:53:10.140 --> 00:53:14.670 Darla O'Dwyer: Is that the kind? I guess I don't wouldn't even know where to start with this. 390 00:53:14.700 --> 00:53:25.260 Morgan Briles: Yes. So is that, is that something that you'd be interested in having in a more tangible format as opposed to just D2L modules for your class or would you 391 00:53:26.520 --> 00:53:45.480 Morgan Briles: What is that because that I mean I would say that's that's still no cost resource and that's awesome that you're doing that for your students. Is that something that you would want to say publish on your own and make available in like a PDF format or have others. I mean, you can still 392 00:53:46.890 --> 00:53:57.120 Morgan Briles: share it without giving it the, the, we are license where people can edit it if you want. But if you're interested in sharing it open access, we do have a platform for that. 393 00:53:59.250 --> 00:54:05.010 Morgan Briles: Yeah, if also if you're not comfortable that's completely fine. Um, 394 00:54:06.090 --> 00:54:11.760 Morgan Briles: But yeah, I mean, that's really cool. And that, I mean that's that's kind of what 395 00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:16.320 Morgan Briles: We're hoping to kind of get conversations about this started so 396 00:54:16.410 --> 00:54:27.930 Darla O'Dwyer: I guess I wouldn't know how to do it because I'll write content and then we link to this study read this study, then write content. So I don't translate into a book. 397 00:54:28.770 --> 00:54:29.160 Okay. 398 00:54:30.540 --> 00:54:31.170 Morgan Briles: Um, 399 00:54:32.430 --> 00:54:41.100 Morgan Briles: You could probably if you wanted to share it as like a module, you could probably do that on the OERTX platform or also use 400 00:54:43.380 --> 00:54:43.770 Morgan Briles: Hmm. 401 00:54:45.360 --> 00:55:00.090 Morgan Briles: What is on the licensing of the stuff you're linking to but yeah if you if you want to have a conversation with myself or Jonathan about that, like shoot me an email. I'd be happy to kind of dig into the weeds with what you're interested in doing with your work. 402 00:55:01.500 --> 00:55:01.770 Morgan Briles: Okay. 403 00:55:01.800 --> 00:55:15.270 Tom Judson: Yeah, I guess the best thing to do. Darla is figure out, talk to Morgan, figure out what you want to do with it. Okay. And then once you make a decision. Maybe the two of you talk to me. And then we can 404 00:55:15.270 --> 00:55:27.420 Tom Judson: figure out, maybe if it can be made to happen in pretext, and you know, put some resources into it because if we can get the files formatted. They might be easily convertible. 405 00:55:29.580 --> 00:55:32.880 Tom Judson: It wouldn't have to be done by writing all of this out by hand you know. 406 00:55:33.750 --> 00:55:33.990 Know, 407 00:55:35.820 --> 00:55:39.240 Morgan Briles: So it's pretexts just spelled like the word pretext. 408 00:55:39.330 --> 00:55:39.660 Yeah. 409 00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:44.040 Tom Judson: Or he capital T. 410 00:55:45.120 --> 00:55:47.400 Tom Judson: E capital X t 411 00:55:47.850 --> 00:55:50.760 Morgan Briles: Okay, so is it kind of like LaTex 412 00:55:51.270 --> 00:55:52.200 Tom Judson: Yeah, it's very much like LaTex but it's PreText 413 00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:56.070 Morgan Briles: Got it, okay. 414 00:55:57.150 --> 00:55:57.570 Morgan Briles: Cool. 415 00:56:00.450 --> 00:56:05.310 Morgan Briles: Great, Of course I. Any other questions or comments you guys have 416 00:56:10.770 --> 00:56:12.060 Tom Judson: Well, this has been helpful. 417 00:56:12.900 --> 00:56:13.470 Morgan Briles: I'm glad. 418 00:56:13.710 --> 00:56:17.700 Tom Judson: We talked more I've got an exam and I have to give in about one minute. 419 00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:19.440 Morgan Briles: Okay. All right. 420 00:56:20.190 --> 00:56:30.780 Morgan Briles: Go, but it was nice to connect with all of you. Stay tuned, we're really hoping to get OER stuff going here at the library. So thanks so much. 421 00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:36.270 Morgan Briles: Take care. 422 00:56:44.610 --> 00:56:45.690 Morgan Briles: Oh. Bye Nancy.